the kingdom of god &
Christian nationalism
Start
WHat's NEW? Why talk about this?
Christian Nationalism has been around for a long time, and has seen increased attention in light of the 2024 presidential election, Project 2025, and the death of Charlie Kirk. In fact, Charlie Kirk openly called himself a "Christian Nationalist," - and that's kind of what's new: some leaders (in the broad thing that is Christianity in America) are embracing the term and using Biblical and/or theological arguments to justify it.
Learn More
Now, can Christians have positive effects on the lives of people who aren't Christians?
answer
FOLLOW-UP
Here is a DANGEROUS quote:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
This statement was in the opening paragraph of this spotlight:
"Christianity is not meant to be a force. It is not given the tools or mission to be anything that might be described as a force, because it is not given greater power as a collective."
what about...
Thank You
You're all amazing people helping other amazing people.
This is Pastor Rich Lusk.
He's a real pastor with a real family. He's working hard to preach the Gospel as best he is able. Let's acknowledge that it is complicated to use someone else's words and analyze them while they aren't in the room. I know that I (Pastor Kent Reeder) have longed to be present in conversations in which things I've written have been discussed. I've chosen to use his quote because it is a) publicly available b) shows that regular pastors are embracing this and c) is a good example of a caring theologian simply going down the wrong path. (I suspect, of course, he'd say the same of me, and I love him for it.)
"American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized."
- There is a difference between what is meant here by "Christianized" and the idea of all the people of a nation being converted to faith in Jesus - but it is hard to pin down what "Christianized" looks like. What comes to mind?
- Why is it difficult (though important) work to identify only those things that would be inherent to any group of Christians?
"There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized."
- This quote, out of the whole paragraph, is...rough.
- Fallacy 1: Category Error
- If someone said, "UW is well-educated!" we all know that it is the people who compose the university, not the grounds or policies or anything else.
- Fallacy 2: Commission Error
- What does Jesus actually care about?
"Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom."
- What is Christendom, really?
- 1 Peter 2:9 | But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
"...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- The quote continues its poor definition of Christendom here and, in doing so, leads toward the wrong hope.
- But still the question is asked...Wouldn't it be better if all the laws and leaders of a nation were devoutly Christian?
- We can respond with another question: If that becomes the goal, what other (read: greater) goal suffers?
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the kingdom of god &
Christian nationalism
Start
WHat's NEW? Why talk about this?
Christian Nationalism has been around for a long time, and has seen increased attention in light of the 2024 presidential election, Project 2025, and the death of Charlie Kirk. In fact, Charlie Kirk openly called himself a "Christian Nationalist," - and that's kind of what's new: some leaders (in the broad thing that is Christianity in America) are embracing the term and using Biblical and/or theological arguments to justify it.
Learn More
Now, can Christians have positive effects on the lives of people who aren't Christians?
answer
FOLLOW-UP
Here is a DANGEROUS quote:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
LeT's analyze a few sentences:
"The Christian Nationalism discussion is not just about America, though it is taking place primarily in an American context right now. American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized. There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized. This is not about American exceptionalism — indeed, there are no exceptions. Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom. ...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."
- from Rich Lusk, "Notes on Christian Nationalism"
This statement was in the opening paragraph of this spotlight:
"Christianity is not meant to be a force. It is not given the tools or mission to be anything that might be described as a force, because it is not given greater power as a collective."
what about...
Thank You
You're all amazing people helping other amazing people.
This is Pastor Rich Lusk.
He's a real pastor with a real family. He's working hard to preach the Gospel as best he is able. Let's acknowledge that it is complicated to use someone else's words and analyze them while they aren't in the room. I know that I (Pastor Kent Reeder) have longed to be present in conversations in which things I've written have been discussed. I've chosen to use his quote because it is a) publicly available b) shows that regular pastors are embracing this and c) is a good example of a caring theologian simply going down the wrong path. (I suspect, of course, he'd say the same of me, and I love him for it.)
"American Christian Nationalists do not just want America to be a Christian nation; we want all nations to be thoroughly Christianized."
"There is nothing provincial about Christian Nationalism. Christian Nationalism can be understood as the outworking of the Great Commission. To say every nation is to be discipled (Matthew 28:16-20) is to say every nation should be Christianized."
"Every nation has the same obligation to King Jesus. When enough nations have been Christianized, we call the result Christendom."
"...All Christian Nationalists recognize that Christendom (however imperfect or incomplete) has been a historical reality. Nations have been Christianized on a wide scale in the past and our hope is that they will be again."